S2 E7 | Play to Heal with Charlie Hoehn

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A few years ago, Charlie Hoehn had achieved his biggest career milestone: organizing best-selling author Tim Ferris' Opening the Kimono book seminar. He had a dream job of being Tim's righthand man. His life should have been perfect...yet something was clearly wrong. Upon completion of Opening the Kimono, Charlie woke up and couldn't breathe or think straight; his hands were shaking and he felt like he was on the verge of a heart attack. What followed was months of anxiety and debilitating stress that led him to leave his job working for Tim. Statistics around burnout and exhaustion are becoming more alarming by the day. The World Health Organization now includes burnout in the 11th Revision of the International Classification as of Diseases as an occupational phenomenon. To say Charlie was burned out is an understatement. Charlie set out on a journey to heal his anxiety and get back to himself. Meditation. Psychedelics. Therapy. Courses. Volunteering. Nothing worked except for one thing. Play.

We talk about:

  • How Charlie went from having his dream job with Tim Ferris to being burned out and lost
  • Why play was the only antidote to his burnout
  • Whether burnout is self-induced or caused by external forces
  • The dangers of working to keep up with society's image of success.
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